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maps.huge.info  
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 More options Aug 22 2007, 11:26 pm
From: "maps.huge.info" <cor...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:26:17 -0000
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2007 11:26 pm
Subject: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Pam,

I just implemented the GadsManager on two of my sites (zip code
overlays). No ads are showing but the pageviews in the AdSense reports
are being skewed way out of proportion. I'm guessing that they are
showing one page view for each tile loaded, regardless of if there is
an ad or not.

I hate to say it, but I think this is a bust. There is no way to
instruct the GadsManager as to what the context of the particular page
is nor which essentially makes it useless for a system like mine where
the map is generic and used for dozens of different uses. I will
probably have to deactivate it.

Is there any plan to make this more useful? I can see several
enhancements:

1. Separate the pageviews generated from GadsManager from regular
pageviews in the reports area of AdSense.

2. Allow some sort of context keywords to be passed to GadsManager.

Thank you for your attention.

-John Coryat


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maps.huge.info  
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 12:12 am
From: "maps.huge.info" <cor...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:12:10 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 12:12 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
err... make that page impressions, not page views.

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Andrew Bidochko <bidochko@gmail.com>  
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 12:55 am
From: "Andrew Bidochko <bidoc...@gmail.com>" <bidoc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:55:47 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 12:55 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
John,
I personally used channels to track my GadsManager ads, but
unfortunately reporting inside AdSense account doesn't display any
statistic for GadsManager channels. Is it a bug or am I doing
something wrong?

var adsManager = new GAdsManager(map, "ca-pub-xxxx", {"maxAdsOnMap":
5, "minZoomLevel": 6, "channel":"Your AdSense Channel"});

~ Andrew Bidochko
http://www.mapbuilder.net

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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 2:16 am
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:16:22 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:16 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Hi John,
Thanks for the information. Can you point me to which URL you're using
it at? We're looking at logs right now for various sites to try to
understand what's happening.
Thanks! - pamela

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 More options Aug 23 2007, 2:38 am
From: "maps.huge.info" <cor...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:38:30 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:38 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Pam,

Thank you for taking the time to investigate this. I didn't do what
Andrew did with the channels, so if that can be worked out, I will do
that as well.

Here are the two pages affected: (as of 2:30pm CST)

http://maps.huge.info/zip.htm (22,619 page impressions today - should
be around 3-4000 by this time)

http://www.usnaviguide.com/zip.htm (13,488 page impressions today -
should be around 1500-2000 by this time)

Thanks a lot!

-John


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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 3:28 am
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:28:45 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:28 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Hi John,
I'll be emailing you personally so I can get some additional
information. Stay tuned to your inbox. :) - pamela

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 More options Aug 23 2007, 6:44 am
From: "S.Buescher" <SteveBuesc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:44:30 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 6:44 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Andrew,

I installed GAdsManager on http://GayBarMaps.com and had a similar
problem until I realized that I had to use the AdSense Channel NUMBER
that Google supplied for that channel, not the NAME of the channel
that I created. Could that be your problem also?

BTW, I also chimed in on your original post where you spoke of 70,000
impressions with zero clicks.

Steve

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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Aug 23 2007, 7:39 am
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:39:23 -0700
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 7:39 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Hi all,
We have confirmed that Adsense is recording a page view for each
viewport change. This is a bug, and we're looking into it.
Thanks to John for sending his stats over to us for checking out, and
thanks to the other who've reported their findings.

By the way, Steve - I clicked on an ad on your map yesterday so you
should see atleast 1 click :)

- pamela

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 More options Aug 23 2007, 7:47 am
From: "Andrew Bidochko <bidoc...@gmail.com>" <bidoc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:47:49 -0700
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Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Steve, indeed I used name... I give a try to a numeric id. Thanks!

~ Andrew Bidochko
http://www.mapbuilder.net

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 More options Aug 23 2007, 8:08 am
From: Steve Buescher <stevebuesc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:08:16 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 8:08 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Pamela,

Although I see thousands of Page Impressions for the channel I set up  
for the on-map ads, I see no clicks for that channel. To register a  
click you need to click on the map marker AND then click on the link  
in the infowindow - is that correct?

BTW, the standard AdSense for content ads themselves do reasonably  
well for clicks on the GayBarMaps.com site.

Steve

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 More options Aug 23 2007, 11:54 am
From: "maps.huge.info" <cor...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:54:40 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 11:54 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
I switched to the channel number method too, will report back how it
works. Is there an easier way to figure out the channel number other
than creating a bogus ad to copy it from? That's the only way I saw.
It would be nice if it was just listed somewhere.

I still get no ads on my maps. I guess it will take a few more months
for the advertisers to get with the program.

-John Coryat

http://maps.huge.info / http://www.usnaviguide.com


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 More options Aug 23 2007, 10:05 pm
From: "maps.huge.info" <cor...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:05:25 -0000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Channel number works. It does separate out the map page views from the
regular page views, however, the aggregate appears under the URL
channel, which I can live with.

For those that desire to use this feature, it is a bit complex to
figure out your channel number.

1. Go to your AdSense account and sign in.
2. Click on the AdSense Setup tab.
3. Click on the AdSense for Content link.
4. Click on the Single page link - you can use the wizard too, but
single page is easier.
5. Roll down to the bottom of the page.
6. Use the provided link (Add new channel) to create a channel, or
select the desired channel if you've already created it.
7. Copy the block of code in the "Your AdSense code:" text area and
paste it into a text document.
8. Select out the number labeled "google_ad_channel" - this is your
channel number.
9. In GadsManager, paste that in so it appears like this:

var adsManager = new GAdsManager(map, "ca-pub-<your publisher ID>",
{channel:"<your channel number>"});

10. Don't forget this important line:

adsManager.enable();

There are other parameters for the GadsManagerOptions, see the
documentation for those.

Did I miss something? Is there an easier way to get the channel
number? If so, please post how.

I got one click so far! A whopping $.03, so it does seem to work. The
big question is how do we tell our users this is there without
violating AdSense's code of conduct in regard to discussing ads?
Another nagging question is how to steer the ads into some sort of
useful context, but that's another thread perhaps.

-John Coryat

http://maps.huge.info / http://www.usnaviguide.com


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pamela (Google Employee)  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 3:21 am
From: "pamela (Google Employee)" <api.pamela...@google.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:21:43 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 3:21 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Hi John,
I'll look into whether there's a better way to find the ad channel
number.
Regarding informing users about the ads, we think it's fine for you to
say "The white markers are sponsored links. Click them for more
information on the sponsor."
The marker clicking is separate from the paid action, the info window
click, so we believe that's within the adsense rules.

- pamela

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 More options Aug 24 2007, 5:01 am
From: "maps.huge.info" <cor...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:01:27 -0000
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Pamela: GadsManager is messing up my pageview counts!
Pam,

I haven't personally seen a single ad on any of my maps, so I don't
know how they will work and especially, how they work with an existing
click listener. I guess it will just take time for advertisers to get
on board and run the ads, so I'll just leave things the way they are
now. I can see that it might be useful for the Google sales team to
have the statistics on map usage being generated, so perhaps having no
ads is useful for that purpose if nothing else. Once I start seeing
ads I will certainly post something as a notice to the users.

Thanks for your help and I look forward to improvements in the way the
GadsManager functions in the future.

-John Coryat

http://maps.huge.info / http://www.usnaviguide.com


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