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Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T22:36:29Z

Could it be that the banks holding on to their 350 billion bailout
(except for bonuses of course) be a good thing? If the masses can't
access credit, they can't spend and without money in the system there
is no inflation.
TMT

Re: If you want to try Linux.....

2009-01-09T21:58:48Z

It is good of you to share your experiences with everyone else.
Thank you.
As for myself, the "best" Linux out of all I tried was Red Hat 6.2. Of
course, I think a lot of the later versions might have been "tweaked" up
more specifically for the latest hardwares but I've still got a lot of old
hardware here (some 10 years old), and the hardware incompatibilities

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T21:55:18Z

fc9f6fac0...@o4g2000pra.google groups.com...
There is no direct relationship between exchange rates and inflation,
only a slight correlation.
Again, this is due more to the disintegrating home and declining vehicle
costs than to real deflation. Major ticket items are always the first
casualty, even while cost of living is climbing.

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T21:32:28Z

We'll see. The dollar has been flat or rising against most other currencies,
so it's unlikely that inflation would take right off with even a large
increase in money supply. At some point, yes, it will cause inflation -- but
not before velocity increases (in other words, before people start buying

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T21:04:32Z

How about once those hundreds of billions of dollars that are being
printed enter the economy?
TMT

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T20:54:25Z

Sorry, Curly, but I have you blocked and only saw this on the quote. d8-)
No, this is not stagflation. The economy is winding down and unemployment is
rising, but the trend in general price levels has turned down and the fear
now is deflation. When those three things go together, you have recession,

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T20:29:00Z

I agree with Curly on this one.
And yes...those presses are smoking.
It will be the cause for the cancer that will afflict the next
generations who will need to pay for the paper being printed.
TMT

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T20:26:23Z

I think there's a real danger here of confusing and making a mess of
understanding.
Those CDOs are denominated in *dollars*. Their value, whether in terms of
purchase price, market price, or pie-in-the-sky, are written in those books
as *dollars* of value (or non-value or phony value; that's not the point).

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T20:25:20Z

I think we are already there.
Perhaps someone would care to tell us what is difference between now
and the fiscal events that led to stagflation?
TMT

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Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T19:18:36Z

The way the terms are used when talking about economics effects, they're
generally used to refer to general, or aggregate increases or decreases in
price levels. For example, from _The Economist's_ "Economics A-Z":
"DEFLATION: Deflation is a persistent fall in the general price level of
goods and SERVICES. It is not to be confused with a decline in prices in one

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T19:03:59Z

I think that was Roy. I just picked up on what ESKwired said.

Re: don't gas stations have bathrooms any more?

2009-01-09T18:48:48Z

There certainly is no such law in Michigan. Even restaurants that
provide
only carry-out service aren't required to have public bathrooms.
Cindy Hamilton

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T18:49:50Z

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:04:45 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
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Actually I was thinking even further back (into the 60s) when
"Engulf and Devour" [Gulf+Western] was touting "synergy" but
practicing "buy, ruin, sell" after milking every dime possible as
quickly as possible out of their newly acquired "cash cows" paid

Re: OT - Survivalism Retail Style

2009-01-09T18:45:30Z

Only because energy costs have dropped by >50%. Real costs are rising
sharply, go grocery shopping or look at your health care premiums. Big
ticket items, such as cars and homes have disintegrated. That is
moderating the index otherwise the rates would be more indicative of cost
of living.
There is a latency, as shown historically, between opening the spigot of