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OrangeSFO  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 6:04 am
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From: OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 6:04 am
Subject: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
Today's FBI....  Keeping us all so very safe.

 LOS ANGELES - A blogger suspected of streaming songs from the
unreleased Guns N' Roses album "Chinese Democracy" on his Web site was
arrested Wednesday and appeared in court, where his bail was set at
$10,000.
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FBI agents arrested 27-year-old Kevin Cogill on Wednesday morning on
suspicion of violating federal copyright laws. Cogill appeared in
court in the afternoon in a T-shirt.

Federal authorities say Cogill posted nine unreleased Guns N' Roses
songs on his Web site in June.


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WuzYoungOnceToo  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 7:07 am
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From: "WuzYoungOnceToo" <WuzYoungOnce...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:07:11 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 27 2008 6:04 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:

OrangeSFO....too fucking stupid to realize that law enforcement
involves...well...enforcing laws.

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OrangeSFO  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 7:41 am
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From: OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 7:41 am
Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 27, 5:07 pm, "WuzYoungOnceToo" <WuzYoungOnce...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> OrangeSFO....too fucking stupid to realize that law enforcement
> involves...well...enforcing laws.

Are we in a fight for our lives or not?  Because if we are, I can
scarcely believe we have resources to spare to protect Axl Rose's
album.

Law enforcement at all levels makes priority selections as to what
kind of criminality needs policing and what kind they are too busy to
pay attention to.

This indicates to me that the "War on Terror" isn't quite the air raid
our Dear Leader wants us to believe it is.


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 More options Aug 28 2008, 7:59 am
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From: "WuzYoungOnceToo" <WuzYoungOnce...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:59:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 27 2008 7:41 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:

What things indicate to you is far more a result of your own mental
retardation than the nature of what you're so spasmotically rambling on
about.

Simply throwing everything you've got at an issue while ignoring
everything else isn't generally the intelligent way to address things.

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 More options Aug 28 2008, 8:45 am
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From: "gtech1" <duanepritch...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:45:22 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
What other laws shouldn't be enforced?  

On Aug 27 2008 8:41 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:

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 More options Aug 28 2008, 9:46 am
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From: "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:46:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 27 2008 5:04 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:

He won't be building any nuclear weapons in prison. God bless George Bush
for saving us from terrorism.

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OrangeSFO  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 10:18 am
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From: OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:18:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 10:18 am
Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 27, 6:45 pm, "gtech1" <duanepritch...@comcast.net> wrote:

> What other laws shouldn't be enforced?

Your question is inane.  I've already explained what's at issue here.
The supposed threat from terrorism is advertised as so large and all
encompassing that the Justice Dept and FBI HAVE IN FACT restructured
resource priorities.  Public corruption prosecutions (especially if
you're a Republican) have been back-burnered; drug enforcement has
gone lax (unless a tie to terrorism can be shown).

With all this you're telling me that the federal govt needs to go
after a guy with a blog playing some music he didn't pay for?

Please...!


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WuzYoungOnceToo  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 11:12 am
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From: "WuzYoungOnceToo" <WuzYoungOnce...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:12:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 27 2008 10:18 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:

> On Aug 27, 6:45 pm, "gtech1" <duanepritch...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > What other laws shouldn't be enforced?

> Your question is inane.

No more so than what he was responding to.

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Pepe Papon  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:38 pm
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From: Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:38:43 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:18:46 -0700 (PDT), OrangeSFO

Don't tell me you're one of those "music should be free" guys.   Do
you have any idea how badly Internet copyright infringement is
impacting the music industry?

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 More options Aug 28 2008, 3:14 pm
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From: OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:14:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
On Aug 28, 12:38 am, Pepe Papon

<hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:
> Don't tell me you're one of those "music should be free" guys.   Do
> you have any idea how badly Internet copyright infringement is
> impacting the music industry?

Do you know why the music industry has the FBI working for them?

Because they have a lobby in Washington.


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Clave  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 3:29 pm
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From: "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:29:30 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
"OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:16621e5d-f760-4a5c-8f72-1a75dbf181b3@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> On Aug 28, 12:38 am, Pepe Papon
> <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

>> Don't tell me you're one of those "music should be free" guys.   Do
>> you have any idea how badly Internet copyright infringement is
>> impacting the music industry?

> Do you know why the music industry has the FBI working for them?

> Because they have a lobby in Washington.

Pretty soon all they'll have is a lounge.  Bah-DUM-bum.

You can tell the number of their days by the lobbying money they spend
trying to restrict the activities of their artists *and* their audiences.

It's really been a shame, the degree to which Congress has nearsightedly
decided to protect the quaint, arthritic business model they've become
addicted to.  It can't last even with Congressional help.

Jim


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Kyle T. Jones  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 10:11 pm
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From: "Kyle T. Jones" <pleaseemai...@realdomain.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:11:14 -0500
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Subject: Re: OT: Grave and Gathering Threats
Pepe Papon, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 8/28/2008
2:38 AM, or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on
Usenet:

It might not be right, or ethical.  But it's an impossible thing to fight.

Cat's out of the bag.  It has been, basically, since it became easy to
duplicate things.  The distribution network simply compounds the problem.

A new approach will have to be found.  By the way, I *don't* know... how
badly *has* Internet copyright infringement impacted the entertainment
industry (not sure why you would restrict it to music, as the same stuff
occurs with movies, even TV shows)?

Cheers.


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