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Tommy Grand  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:18 am
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar, sci.math
From: Tommy Grand <howardj...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
Read all about it:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/08/22/p2...

Excerpt:

A mathematical proof that there is no “climate crisis” has been
published in debate on global warming in Physics and Society, a
scientific publication of the 46,000-strong American Physical Society.

Christopher Monckton, who once advised Margaret Thatcher, demonstrates
via 30 equations that computer models used by the UN’s climate panel
(IPCC) were pre-programmed with overstated values for the three
variables whose product is “climate sensitivity” (temperature increase
in response to greenhouse-gas increase), resulting in a 500-2000%
overstatement of CO2’s effect on temperature in the IPCC’s latest
climate assessment report, published in 2007.


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Mensanator  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:42 am
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From: Mensanator <mensana...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
On Aug 27, 2:18 pm, Tommy Grand <howardj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I guess that glacier in Greenland that just developed a
huge crack and is about to fall into the sea doesn't
read such publications, eh?

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:45 am
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From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:45:46 GMT
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved

Neither does that bumble bee!

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Alain Reiher  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:50 am
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From: "Alain Reiher" <rei...@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:50:25 GMT
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved

"Mark & Steven Bornfeld" <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote in message
news:K9itk.857$UX.469@trnddc03...

Or that yellow frog

Alain (My Vegi-pâté is "une réussite!)


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Andrew Schulman  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:52 am
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From: Andrew Schulman <abaca...@panix.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 2:52 am
Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
On Aug 27, 3:45 pm, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
> > I guess that glacier in Greenland that just developed a
> > huge crack and is about to fall into the sea doesn't
> > read such publications, eh?

> Neither does that bumble bee!

The polar bears they spotted swimming last week do read it though, one
was apparently doing a backstroke and reading that very article to the
others.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2745499020080827

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5io8-mhR216BbP-65r8IrK1C6y8ZQD92QQS1O0

Andrew


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David Raleigh Arnold  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 2:57 am
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From: David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:57:51 GMT
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved

Even if overestimated by a factor of 10 global warming is catastrophic,
but the estimates are out of date anyway, and the reality is apparent.
daveA

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Jens Stueckelberger  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 3:14 am
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From: Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 3:14 am
Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
        I thought this was a forum for scientific discourse, not for
dogma. If, as one would not be surprised to learn, the paper mentioned by
the OP is little more than a lot of junk, devoid of any scientific value
then let's debunk it. If we can't then at least let us reserve our
judgment until somebody who can does so.

        All these comments about anectodal observations and press
releases are useless as debunking attempts, and the cute, facetious ones
project a very poor image as far as the scientific education of those who
contributed them.


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ju...@diegidio.name  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 3:29 am
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
On 27 Aug, 21:14, Jens Stueckelberger <JStueckelber...@nowhere.org>
wrote:

>         I thought this was a forum for scientific discourse, not for
> dogma. If, as one would not be surprised to learn, the paper mentioned by
> the OP is little more than a lot of junk, devoid of any scientific value
> then let's debunk it. If we can't then at least let us reserve our
> judgment until somebody who can does so.

>         All these comments about anectodal observations and press
> releases are useless as debunking attempts, and the cute, facetious ones
> project a very poor image as far as the scientific education of those who
> contributed them.

What can you see of mathematical in a scoop about overstated
parameters?

Where is a model that says that all is going well?

Let me know if you happen to find one.

In the meantime let's buy meat, says the financial advisor.

All is perfect for those who use no parameters at all.

-LV


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John R.  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 3:54 am
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From: "John R." <jdr...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 28 2008 3:54 am
Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
On Aug 27, 2:57 pm, David Raleigh Arnold <darno...@cox.net> wrote:

Dave,

It is all a bunch of bunk.  The earth warms and it cools - nothing we
can do to significantly change that.   There is this thing in the sky
we call the "sun" that pretty much controls everything on a large
scale.  Smaller things, like volcanic activities have effects, as
well.

Mowing your grass with a manual mower or getting killed in a fender-
bender driver your Yugo is just pointless, as far as the world's
climate is concerned.

John


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Andrew Schulman  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 4:17 am
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From: Andrew Schulman <abaca...@panix.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:17:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
On Aug 27, 4:54 pm, "John R." <jdr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

John-

I'd love to get you together for a chat with my friend Michael Allison
of NASA's Goddard Institute!

The worst part of the global warming issue is that it has become
politicized, but that seems to be changing for the better lately.

Andrew


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dewachen1...@gmail.com  
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 More options Aug 28 2008, 4:58 am
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From: dewachen1...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:58:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT: Global warming has been mathematically disproved
On Aug 27, 2:54 pm, "John R." <jdr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Thank GOD for the few remaining real men we have left.  John I think
your on to something here other liberal scumbags can't see, and you
don't even have a degree in science for GOD's sake, you figured it ALL
out without even having one degree....... fucking brilliant man!
This is proof that the conservative mind is far superior to liberal
commie mind.  Wolli said and I quote " A true Rupublican looks at the
content of a man's character, not the color of his skin".  This brings
fucking tears to my eyes.

 In your " BIG THING LITTLE THING THEORY"   you brilliantly pointed
out the sun is BIG, I mean, I'm talking fucking BIG, HUGE.....BIGGER
than Andrew Schulman's Ass, and that's pretty fucking big, and it's
getting bigger by the day now he can't walk his
dogs..................... I digress.....

  John I just want to let you know I'm on board with your
observations.  The Sun is huge and a volcano is small..... period!
This is so simple yet extremely profound!  These fucking liberal
scumbags  screw it all up with thier superior than thou science and
crap!
 And we know that devil incarnate Sir Richard Owen planted that
fucking dinosaur bone to test us.

  John one last word of advice, Market your idea!  Anything less would
be a liberal copout!  You need to call it  " Big Thing Little Thing"
this is highly marketable.  Like Viagra, Cialis, and the like.  See
where I'm going with this?  Big thing, little thing/Viagra. You see
John the American people relate to a slogan, they don't want a bunch
of fucking liberal information and facts.  Their brilliant minds
( like your) can't relate to all this fact shit........ You get it
brother John!


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